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January 8, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
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wrong age

According to the article on the person JACK BLACK, Mr Black was born in 1969. But according to the TENACIOUS D article: "Black and Gass met in Edinburgh, Scotland during the Edinburgh Fringe of 1989.[6] They were aged 16 and 24 respectively."

But in 1969, Mr Black must have been 20, not 16. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.143.46.83 (talk) 08:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's more, how did they meet in Edinburgh when they were both members of the same theatre group from LA? -- 77.188.122.184 (talk) 20:17, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

Working on some material here, please help if possible:

Russell Brand^[1], Incredibad^[2] and Kanye West^[3] have listed Tenacious D as being influential to them. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Marchese, David (2010-05-24). "Q&A: Russell Brand Speaks 'Greek,' Dirty Lyrics & More". Spin (magazine)/Spin. Retrieved 2010-05-27.
^ "Incredibad Info". Retrieved 2010-05-27.
^ "Kanye West Talks Tenacious D, OJ Simpson and Chris Brown For "Storytellers"". Retrieved 2010-05-27.

Origin of the term "Tenacious D"

The article currently contains the text:

'Black and Gass gave them the choice between "Pets or Meat", "Balboa's Biblical Theatre", and "The Axe Lords Featuring Gorgazon’s Mischief" (Gass' personal favorite).[11] "Tenacious D"—a term used by sports commentators to describe robust defensive positioning in basketball—did not get the majority of votes, however, but according to Black "we forced it through".[11][13]'

This has been changed from a previous version (by myself) which specified a particular commentator who used the term, resulting in a minor edit war over which commentator invented the term.

Please be aware that neither named commentator was referenced as the inventor. So, to avoid further edit warring, the contentious text was removed. Anyone wishing to re-add the inventor with a cited reference may feel free to do so - although I would contend that the originator of the term is somewhat irrelevant to the article, as it is currently structured. Metao (talk) 07:54, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The editor has attempted to include two sources so far, unfortunately the first did not satisfy WP:RS and the second (a Google Books search result) did not actually reference the term at all. The book returned does reference the term, but does not make a claim as to the origin of the term, which is what is being asserted. I have reverted the changes again. Metao (talk) 01:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Third Opinion Request:

Disclaimers: I am responding to a third opinion request made at WP:3O. I have made no previous edits on Tenacious D and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process (FAQ) is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. Third opinions are not tiebreakers and should not be "counted" in determining whether or not consensus has been reached. My personal standards for issuing third opinions can be viewed here.

Opinion: I've also looked at the discussions at User_talk:Metao#stop_changing_the_tenacious_d_article and at User_talk:Jeff62284#Tenacious D. I presume that the two references in question are this one and this one. Metao's assessment of those references is correct. Per Wikipedia policy, as set out in the first sentence of Wikipedia:Verifiability, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth"; information must be sourced from a reliable source and if it cannot be so sourced, it cannot be included. The Frazier assertion and the references which support it should not be included in the article. A warning to both editors: The three revert rule is merely a bright-line rule and it expressly says, "Remember that an administrator may still act whenever they believe a user's behavior constitutes edit warring, and any user may report edit-warring, even if the three-revert rule has not been breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times." What's going on here is clearly an edit war and I must warn you that you stand a risk of having this page protected and/or being blocked from editing if it continues. Decide it by discussion, do a RFC, take it to MedCab, or use some other form of dispute resolution, but stop reverting.

What's next: Once you've considered this opinion click here to see what happens next.—TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011

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Frank Zappa

Surprised to see no mention of Frank Zappa as an influence, they're more like Zappa than Zeppelin or anybody else.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:47, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find some references for that, by all means be WP:BOLD.—♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 19:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rize of the Fenix and touring (2008 – present)

Much of this section consists of speculation and teasers about the forthcoming album, 90 per cent of which is irrelevant now that the album has been released. The whole section could do with a damned good rewrite. Skinsmoke (talk) 18:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Band members section

I have limited the band members section to JB, KG, Kones, Spiker, and Wackerman, who make up the core touring lineup. Hopefully other established editors agree with me. People like Page McConnell and Scott Seiver only ever contributed to studio tracks, which certainly does not make them members. The only contentious exclusions may be Dave Grohl and Jason Reed, but I think it's clear these guys are not members of the band either, at least in my opinion. Either way, I think we need to discuss any proposed changes to the section here first. Andre666 (talk) 23:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The GQ Video

This article was edited by the band in October 2018 for GQ's "Actually Me" series. The problem is, they add a joke about tacos which doesn't really belong on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is solely for informative purposes.

Their "contribution" is visible on the YouTube video. It should remain there. I have also added an information comment next to the offending area.

Procedural revert: You didnt cite any policies against that and nobody else has any issue with it. If you have issue with it obtain consensus before you remove it. That's the proper way to remove such content, @Icaldonta: DrewieStewie (talk) 01:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:NOTOPINION

"as it was cheap"

--Icaldonta (talk) 18:04, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Grohl as an additional member

I don't think Dave Grohl should be listed as an additional member. He has played all drums on the first two albums, though has only featured in some songs on the most recent two. He appeared on Mad TV with the band in 2002, and then Blizzcon Gaming Convention in 2010 as a stand-in. I feel he should be an 'associated act', but do not feel there is enough to publish him as an additional member.

GA Reassessment

Tenacious D

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Result: Significant sourcing and weighting issues. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:38, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listed in 2007 by a very (*ahem*) Tenacious editor (check out those article milestones) who hasn't edited in 14 years. "Setlist" is a wiki. Not reliable. 14 citation needed tags. Schierbecker (talk) 21:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] Marchese, David (2010-05-24). "Q&A: Russell Brand Speaks 'Greek,' Dirty Lyrics & More". Spin (magazine)/Spin. Retrieved 2010-05-27.

[2] "Incredibad Info". Retrieved 2010-05-27.

[3] "Kanye West Talks Tenacious D, OJ Simpson and Chris Brown For "Storytellers"". Retrieved 2010-05-27.

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